Creating the Third Space and Building Bridges Between Cultures

Episode #138 | Creating Synergy Podcast

In this compelling episode of the Creating Synergy Podcast, we sit down with Pauly Vandenbergh, Indigenous and Multicultural Engagement Manager at AFL and Co-founder of Munda Wines to explore the transformative concept of the "Third Space." 

Pauly shares powerful insights about bridging the cultural divide between Indigenous and non-Indigenous Australians, fostering mutual understanding, and the role of education in creating meaningful change. 

This is more than a conversation; it’s a step towards a more inclusive future. 

• The importance of cultural immersion and awareness 
• Lessons from the failed referendum and its impact 
• How to co-exist while honoring Australia's rich Indigenous heritage 

🎧 TUNE IN NOW to hear Pauly’s incredible journey and vision for a better Australia. 

00:00 - Living in Two Worlds & The Third Space

05:59 - The Impact of the Referendum Failure

11:05 - Changing the Date of Australia Day

14:48 - Systemic Issues & Indigenous Incarceration Rates

19:42 - Breaking the Cycle Through Education

26:12 - Indigenous Representation in Media & Society

33:06 - The Difference Between New Zealand & Australia in Embracing Indigenous Culture

45:19 - The Lack of Empathy & Truth-Telling in Australia

55:07 - How Non-Indigenous People Can Support Change

1:12:26 - The Power of Sport & Role Models for Indigenous Youth

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Guest Info

Pauly Vandenbergh

Indigenous and Multicultural Engagement Manager at AFL

A proud member of the Wirangu and Kokatha peoples of South Australia's Far West Coast, Pauly Vandenbergh has dedicated his life to fostering change and creating opportunities for Aboriginal communities.

A former professional basketball player for the Canberra Cannons in the NBL, Pauly transitioned into a trailblazing career in the Australian Football industry. He served as Director of Aboriginal Programs at Port Adelaide Football Club and now works as National Diversity Talent Manager at the AFL, championing inclusion and opportunity for Indigenous and multicultural talent.

Pauly is also a co-founder and director of the Tjindu Foundation, an organisation empowering Aboriginal young people, and runs two Indigenous-owned businesses: Wanna Mar tuna fishing and Munda Wines.

As an influential cultural educator, Pauly promotes pride in identity, language, and country while driving reconciliation through knowledge-sharing and organisational training. His work bridges gaps between cultures, inspiring meaningful change and collaboration across Australia.

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